Consider this advice wrong. This exposes carefully secured data to the public. Advice should start at menuitem level and include assessing the revealed information. Articles should have been changed before using this content wide. Would actually advice against using this content wide. Sovainfo (talk) 10:55, 30 November 2013 (CST)
- Standard practice is to start with Global options then control the exceptions via the menu items. Given that readmore is used in featured/blog pages then generally speaking the majority of articles will have readmore. It was based on a post by the forum's top poster http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=706&t=828063#p3112409 . It explains that the options can be edited and has Bold warnings about the layout of articles
- Perhaps we could have a set of instructions for
- When there is only one non public Article that has a readmore ...ie. the 'Show unauthorised' is set in every Blog menu item it is set to use Article settings or set it 'No' and it's single menu item set No
- When there is only one non public Article that has a readmore and several Articles with readmore that are public access... ie. the 'Show unauthorised' is set in every Blog menu item it is set to use Article settings or set it 'No' and every single menu item set No
- Where there are several non public Article that have readmore and several Articles with readmore that are public access... ie. the 'Show unauthorised' is set in every Blog menu item it is set to use Article settings or set it 'No' and every single menu item set No
- However I understand your concerns and have added a title. And replaced the instructions above for individual Articles. Perhaps you could edit the instructions for individual articles to reflect the fact that if an article is displayed in a single menu item as well as a featured/blog menu item ... that single article settings override blog menu item settings ?
--Webdongle 13:09, 30 November 2013 (CST)
- As already mentioned above: consider the advice wrong. Including the standard practice of starting at global. Wouldn't advice that either, specially not with this setting (Show unauthorised links). Nor would I advice this as a general practice. Don't think we need to protect site builders against themselves by removing the global setting. Do think the documentation should direct them to do the right thing. Normally I would not even mention the global setting. But in this case the negative effects are so important I do feel the need to warn them against setting to show. I'll refrain from further editting on this document as well. Feels like wasting my time. Sovainfo (talk) 14:49, 30 November 2013 (CST)
- "Including the standard practice of starting at global"
- By default - settings in Menus, Articles, categories, various option screens etc are set to follow global. Therefore it is standard practice for the user to make sure the Global settings fit the majority of the needs of their site. If the user has 30 menu items that require setting 'B' and one menu item setting 'Default' but fails to set the Global setting to 'B' ... then they have to edit 30 menu items instead of only one.
- "Normally I would not even mention the global setting."
- For the reasons already mentioned - failing to inform about how Global settings are used would cause the user to spend extra time editing more menu items.
- "I do feel the need to warn them against setting to show"
- There is a Bold warning about text in an Article being treated as 'intro text' when it has no readmore link.
- "I'll refrain from further editting on this document as well. Feels like wasting my time."
- The original instructions have been replaced ... all that is different is extra information has been added. I was hoping that giving the original instructions first position that it might appease your ego. But unfortunately you appear to be having another tantrum because someone else's opinion is different to yours.
I do agree that in this instance that Global options need to be used with care (hence the warning in bold). The page now gives instructions for users who only want the feature on one or two Articles. And instructions for users who want all the Articles to use the feature. Also it includes information that the Global settings can be override.
If we withhold information about Global settings and how to individualise the settings because we we think "the negative effects are so important" then ... we are not only failing to provide good, full documentation but we are also guilty setting a very controversial precedent of censoring information because we think we know better than the user who reads the page. --Webdongle 16:47, 30 November 2013 (CST)